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Transcript of Committee Meeting, Wednesday, February 25, 2009
The meeting took place online on Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 5pm GMT, 12 noon EST, 9am PST.
Attendees
- CorvusE
- AlexH3
- Bigrebo
- callguinness
- CatRose
- ChrisK
- DrewStew
- JES
- JRob
- kingspoon
- Rhi
- sk8gundy
- TehDrew
- tobias_heussner
- TracySeamster
- Wandering
- wendy
Transcript
Wandering: welcome all :D
CorvusE: You can change it by issuing a...
CorvusE: nevermind
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CorvusE: "/nick nickname" will change your name
Cat: Back
Wandering: The agenda will be - 1/Our core aims for this year Following our discussion last meeting about 2009, we decided to focus on —
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Guest63826: Hopefully this works
Wandering: Getting New Blood into the Industry (with the action point to create a fact sheet on the benefits of a writing intern).
CorvusE: "/nick nickname" will change your name
Wandering: Continue to promote the benefits of working with a writer to the games industry (with the action point we need to find the list common statements and arguments for and against the need for writers produced for Austin GDC 2006 and put that on the website, promote it)
Wandering: 2. GDC 2009 - Write Club — anything you need?
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Wandering: 3. GDC 2009 - Volunteer Coordinators — anything you need?
nickname: ha sorry
Wandering: 4. GDC 2009 — Contact list for GDC - anything you need?
Wandering: 5. Volunteers — round ‘em up and lets get busy in 2009
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Wandering: 6. Increasing SIG visibility - IGDA magazine
Wandering: 7. Quarterly
Wandering: 8. FAQs for the wiki — following on the last meeting could we look at producing FAQs on manual writing? Review and critique writing?
Wandering: 9. Website developments and the Wiki - following on the last meeting could we look at adding manual, Review and critique samples to the script library? How can make the information there more accessible? A number of documents i.e. common statements and arguments against the need for writers, have gone missing…
Wandering: 10. Any other business
Wandering: So...to kick off...1) Getting New Blood into the Industry (with the action point to create a fact sheet on the benefits of a writing intern).
Wandering: Any other ideas for what we can do to help with this?
JRob: hmm, writing interns. like unpaid interns?
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Wandering: This was a suggestion given last time once we had decided this was to be a focus
ChrisK: I'll take one :)
Wandering: paid or unpaid
CatRose: internships usually involve college credit, don't they?
tobias_heussner: Hello
Wandering: Hi tobias
TracySeamster: Or at least getting your foot in the door where you can say you did X and company Y
Wandering: Any other suggestions for how to look at Getting New Blood into the Industry welcome as well as anyone willing to help deal with the internship thing
TracySeamster: er, at not and...that makes it something completely different.
TracySeamster: New Blood = someone who has never worked in games, or someone who is coming to games from elsewhere?
Wandering: sorry Tracy, I didn't understand that
CatRose: how are internships currently advertised? if at all, really...
Wandering: New blood = new to the industry
JES: I would be particularly interested in getting experienced writers into the industry.
Wandering: They are sometimes advertised in places like gamasutra
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CatRose: it would be nice to have a better list of them. And of course, you can always reach out to colleges.
Wandering: I suppose new blood covers someone who has not worked in games and the second priority ...promoting writers to the industry will cover all varieties of experienced writer
TracySeamster: Okay...wasn't sure if you meant we were looking at interns as in out of college or experience out of other industry
tobias_heussner: Hi Wendy
Wandering: We talked about a list, but companies don't tend to be consistent on offering them
Wandering: they tend to be there then now
Wandering: np Tracy
Wandering: those are sort of questions we need to raise
Wandering: Has anyone here done an internship?
Wandering: Know of anyone who has?
CatRose: hmm. is it safe to assume that the individual chapters are usually in charge of reaching out to local companies for things like that?
JRob: have any writers who have relationships with established game companies brought it up to management?
CatRose: (please let me know if I'm asking too many questions, I'm a n00b)
JES: Tough question. Just guessing, but to hire and intern you need an established writer.
Wandering: Could we start by compiling some online advice for where to look for them, back to FAQs, but that gives us a concrete result then a list of things we could act upon
JES: And to have an established writer you need a larger studio.
TracySeamster: At SOE, I write but my title is game designer and when we have an internship for game design, they often mean the "other" kind of designer :)
Wandering: So no one here knows of writing internships?
TracySeamster: Are there any at BioWare?
JRob: I've never seen any listed
JES: I'm freelance... and I'm not about to hire an intern to my house :)
JRob: BioWare had that big call for new writers at one point, but it wasn't for internships
wendy: hi everyone, sorry i've got a lot going on
CorvusE: I'd hire an intern if they'd clean my kitchen for me.
JRob: hiring an intern to your house might not be that bad a deal
TracySeamster: heh
wendy: i'm not sure there are any writing interns out there
wendy: i thin we're breaking new ground here
wendy: think even
Wandering: If internship seems like a dead end, what other practical suggestions do people have?
Wandering: seems that way wendy
Wandering: If internship seems like a dead end, what other practical suggestions do people have?
wendy: well, i don't think they are a dead end exactly - i just think our SIG needs to help companies get the idea and use it well
TracySeamster: When we talk about needing more writing done, we usually talk in terms of outsourcing rather than interning.
wendy: which would include setting those companies up with good people to start off, so they have a good experience with the program
Wandering: That tends to be the industry model tracy
wendy: i believe people just don't think about using interns
JRob: I guess it gets back to our general gist of having "resources for companies" and "resources for writers" available on the SIG site
TracySeamster: I'll ask up here, though, and see if there's interest since we have DigiPen 5 minutes from the office.
Wandering: I agree jrob
Wandering: Does anyone know someone who has done a design internship?
Wandering: Maybe we can get information from them to move across on to this?
wendy: so let's start up our own internship program to help companies get the idea, and help writers get the internships
Wandering: I'm not sure we can offer that
wendy: why not?
Wandering: that seems beyond our resources
wendy: bah
wendy: so was writing books
wendy: i'm not saying it'll be ready to go tomorrow
Wandering: am happy if people want to work on it :)
wendy: but if we never get started, it'll never happen
JRob: there was an Austin game company that ... hmm. at a picnic last summer the guy was saying he loves to bring people on as interns, give them a space to set up a laptop, and experiment with them until he figures out what they do well, then focus them on that. if they're really great, he eventually offers them a job, otherwise he figures they have a great resume credit from having done the internship.
CatRose: there's no harm in looking into it
ChrisK: Tim Langdell might want to help with that as well, since he's running the MA program at NU for game production and design
JES: Do I speak heresy if I say design <> writing? It's quite easy to get game design interns, but I've never heard of nor seen a game writing intern.
wendy: i say we set it up as an official initiative and start collecting volunteers to work on it - if we haven't already
wendy: Rob, can you add that to the wiki?
ChrisK: Right, they're not the same, but that's the name of the program - it does include writing
Wandering: That is heresy
Wandering: that is part of the problem I think we could face with this
TracySeamster: They'd have to have it in the actual description that writing is the focus
JRob: add the initiative? ok
wendy: thanks Rob
Wandering: companies hiring designers, or trying to get people cheap, so we will need to focus on what results we want :)
wendy: by the way, i'm sure most of these would be unpaid internships
Wandering: thanks Rob :)
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Wandering: Anyone like to step up to head this up
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TracySeamster: [the room falls silent]
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JES: *stealth mode*
Wandering: Always the problem :)
ChrisK: Crickets chirp
TracySeamster: I'm not sure how we could do this, though.
wendy: i'm going to volunteer Rich Dansky
JES: Yes!
ChrisK: ROFL!
Wandering: Okay, let's take what we have as a step forward
wendy: i'm serious
TracySeamster: I just sent an email to our creative director and hr person to suggest it, but I don't know that I can go around to dozens of companies and ask them.
Wandering: and then move that on next meeting
TracySeamster: Or is that all it is?
wendy: put Rich down as in charge of this
TracySeamster: lol, wendy :D
sk8gundy: in charge of what?
JES: beheadings
Wandering: I don't think we should put anyone in charge of anything before we've spoken to them :D
wendy: i'm the chair
CatRose: Do we know what's required by colleges to give credit for internships? Could a call be put out to members to send us info on internships they know of?
wendy: you have to do what i say! *tantrum*
CatRose: lol
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wendy: seriously though, if Rich can't do it, he can be in charge of finding someone else to head it up
CatRose: Or are those details to be worried about by Rich. ;)
TracySeamster: Cat's volunteering! Yay!
TracySeamster: ;)
TracySeamster: I'll help him, if he points me in the correct direction.
Wandering: okay, so 2 Continue to promote the benefits of working with a writer to the games industry (with the action point we need to find the list common statements and arguments for and against the need for writers produced for Austin GDC 2006 and put that on the website, promote it)
wendy: it's a matter of going to the colleges and showing them the internship as it exists and asking if it meets their requirements for credits. there's no way to do this all at once
Wandering: First off, does anyone here have the list common statements and arguments for and against the need for writers produced for Austin GDC 2006?
wendy: i would like to point people towards this: http://gwsig.quantumcontent.com/?p=15
JES: Actually, I bet that Richard does.
wendy: and this: http://gwsig.quantumcontent.com/?p=14
sk8gundy: it's on the writers cabal blog or linked to it
Wandering: Grand
wendy: and this: http://gwsig.quantumcontent.com/?p=12
wendy: those articles weren't written yesterday. they may need some updating. but we do have quite a bit of resources of this type on the website
wendy: we just need to do a better job of promoting them
wendy: btw, Andy just got hauled bodily away from his computer
wendy: so i'm in charge now
wendy: muahahahahaha
CatRose: eek
TracySeamster: heh a coup!
CatRose: ;)
wendy: seriously though, hang on while i dig up the agenda :-)
Rhi: Andy.... we did something about the top problems that writers have with developers... and vice versa. That could be of use.
wendy: that sounds great Rhi
sk8gundy: You can also reprint from Writers cabal Blog if you want to - there are several blog posts on that theme
TracySeamster: I'll link to them more on the SOE blog page...for all two of my readers. :)
wendy: I know we keep talking about how there's going to be a new website soon
CorvusE: But there really is!
wendy: but it really is coming, and these materials would be great on the new site
Wandering: work call, but am trying to keep an eye on things...:) Agenda's at the top of this as well as on the email just sent through
Rhi: It was for a talk we did at Develop a couple of years back
wendy: i think we're getting close enough that we'll wait to pile these new resources onto the web when we get the new site
wendy: could you send it to Corvus, Rhi?
CatRose: cool :)
wendy: i'm preparing to move on to the next item on the agenda - Write Club at GDC
wendy: any objections?
Rhi: Yeah, if I can find it...
wendy: thanks Rhi
wendy: ok, moving on then. Write Club at GDC09
Rhi: If I can't Andy will have it
wendy: are we all set with that? what's the status?
wendy: Chris K, did we get the room reservation?
ChrisK: I haven't heard back from John Konstantin, the owner, on whether he needs my cc to hold it, but he did say we could have the room :)
wendy: that sounds promising :-)
wendy: for Wednesday night, correct?
wendy: Corvus and/or Rob, do you suppose you could put together a schedule of all writing-related events going on at GDC? And include Write Club on that schedule?
CorvusE: I've got a Google calendar started
CorvusE: I'll be putting in all member led sessions
wendy: i know the official schedule for GDC isn't up yet (days and times for sessions etc.) but I'm thinking it would be a list of sessions our members are part of, the group gatherings, things like that
CorvusE: various parties, etc
wendy: ah, you're ahead of me
CorvusE: yop yop
ChrisK: Yes, Wed. the 26th for 3 hours or so
JRob: is there any simple way of compiling such a list? it seems like everything is strewn about the GDC website
JRob: is anything known about parties yet?
wendy: ok, so put Write Club in there for the 26th :-)
CorvusE: JRob: I'm asking for members to tell me what sessions they're leading
JRob: ok
wendy: we know there will be an IGDA party on Tuesday
JRob: I'm leading the meet-and-greet thingy
ChrisK: Don't forget the annual "who's going" phone/room/contact list/map
JRob: which has a page on the website but still says date TBD
CorvusE: yes, there are someother parties on Tuesday too
CorvusE: ChrisK: That's the next agenda item, I believe
wendy: i'm leading the sig meeting and i'm on a panel
JRob: I'm just trusting Corvus to do all this, and mainly seeing my job as to be "on" during the length of the conf
JRob: which right now mainly involves holing up in a cave to save my strength
wendy: yeah, i think the two of you have it worked out pretty well
CorvusE: yeah. I'm handling the data collection and presentation
wendy: yay Rob and Corvus!
CorvusE: I won't be that available during the conf
CorvusE: But I've got the time & resources to handle the up front work
wendy: ok, i kinda think that covers the next agenda item as well - yay Rob and Corvus
TracySeamster: I'm just going on the expo pass, so if you need a message runner between venues, you can tag me.
wendy: do you guys need any help with all your organizing etc.?
CorvusE: I'm going to start sending weekly badgers to the mailing list on Monday
JRob: corvus seems pretty sanguine
wendy: hey, Tracy the gofer!
JRob: badgers, voles, stoats, all kinds of rodents
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JRob: hey Drew
wendy: i worked in tv long enough to really learn to heart gofers
DrewStew: hello
JRob: geez this thing is happening a mere month from now
CorvusE: I'm also working on a GDC map
wendy: ok, next agenda item
wendy: yes, it's staring us in the face :-)
CorvusE: with all the hotels, good bars, restaurants, etc
JRob: when I was talking to Brian Moriarty at Austin GDC he was really keen on sneaking off to do karaoke
wendy: next on the agenda is our new initiative to make better use of our volunteers, and that means Tracy!
TracySeamster: aiee
wendy: who is far more than a gofer. :-)
JRob: I don't know if he'll be there or not this time
TracySeamster: I mean yay?
wendy: how's that going?
TracySeamster: The sneaking off or the better use?
wendy: I know i sent you one email about it just last night. is the spreadsheet underway?
TracySeamster: We're at the end of a scrum cycle so I've been preoccupied...
wendy: ok, we'll put that in the "still working on it" column ;-)
TracySeamster: my goal however was to get a list of who volunteered for what, for which I think our last thing was to send an email to the list and say Tell Me and you'll be added to a spreadsheet!
TracySeamster: but it's only in my mind until Thursday so far
wendy: did you get the email i sent you last night?
wendy: is it buried under a ton of unread emails? :-)
TracySeamster: last night?
wendy: yep
wendy: well, early early this morning technically
Wandering: With tim growing short could we ask what is happening with the quarterly and then 8. FAQs for the wiki — following on the last meeting could we look at producing FAQs on manual writing? Review and critique writing?
TracySeamster: oh! ok...I thought that was to the whole sig so I didn't open it yet.
TracySeamster: moves along
Wandering: time even...Time is actually quite tall
wendy: i'm not sure we have any representatives of the Quarterly crew here - other than me
wendy: so I'll say it's under control
wendy: we actually had extra content for it, which we're going to pitch to Gamasutra
wendy: which would help promote our Quarterly as well
Wandering: Great stuff! :)
Wandering: 8. FAQs for the wiki — following on the last meeting could we look at producing FAQs on manual writing? Review and critique writing?
Wandering: That has some concrete results
wendy: it's in the final copyedit stages now, and is on track to go to print on time
Wandering: anyone willing to help produce more FAQs
wendy: we should also say on 8 - YAY! We got a FAQ Done!
wendy: well, not we
Wandering: Yay!
ChrisK: Yay! :)
wendy: mostly just whatshisname
Wandering: Yay!
TracySeamster: Yay!
Wandering: Yay for whatshisname
wendy: sorry, i can't think of names of anybody before noon
CatRose: :)
ChrisK: Dan
wendy: yes, Dan!
TracySeamster: @Wendy...my mind went blank just then too
TracySeamster: Dan! Yay!
wendy: that was great initiative from Dan. He should get a gold star.
ChrisK: Oh, I forgot - for Write Club I do need to know how many people we expect
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Bigrebo: hola everybody
Wandering: Votes a big goldstar for Dan
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Wandering: could we look at producing FAQs on manual writing? Review and critique writing?
wendy: oh hey, I think Bigrebo here has had a design internship, but I think we're going backwards on the agenda if i say that
Wandering: Maybe we can pitch this to the list
sk8gundy: It was somewhat an offshoot of Game Design SIG -- since it was a suggestion to write a FAQ instead of asking newbie questions
sk8gundy: As a warning to all: the GDSIG seems to be really not into newbie questions
wendy: ok then, gayg game design sig!
wendy: er, yay game design sig
wendy: yes, let's pitch this to the list
sk8gundy: yes, gayg game design SIG would be a niche
JRob: who's qualified to write a FAQ on manual writing and review writing?
CatRose: lol
TracySeamster: not me
wendy: well, i liked the way Dan did the other faq - by mining our archives
ChrisK: I would think Kelly Heckman for the reviews - she runs gamersinfo.net
wendy: and asking direct questions onlist
wendy: i think we should ask Dan if he wants to do the next FAQ too, since I don't see anyone else here clamoring for that job :-)
ChrisK: I've done plenty of manuals but I am not sure I have the time to run it right now, although I'd be happy to contribute comments and suggestions
sk8gundy: actually, one learns a lot with creating the FAQ
JRob: shower him with flattery and encouraging praise and maybe he'll spontaneously want to whitewash aunt polly's fence
ChrisK: LOL
ChrisK: Thanks, Huck
wendy: shhh, Rob, don't give away our methods!
Wandering: Could you work with Dan Chris, if he is willing to work on it?
JRob: I dunno, I think it worked on me already
wendy: yeah, well, that's cuz you rawk
TracySeamster: It's too late; Rob's comments will be preserved for all eternity in our archives.
wendy: heck, all of you guys rawk!
ChrisK: Sure
Wandering: Thanks Chris
wendy: next agenda item!
Wandering: Does anyone know Kelly Heckman?
Wandering: Or anyone else who could look at the review side of things?
wendy: she's on the mailing list
Wandering: personal is always better if anyone knows her personally
JES: Do we have members who do a lot of review writing? Maybe it should be a FAQ on game journalism? Don't know, it just seems a real step away from game writing in my (admittedly parochial) view.
ChrisK: I do
ChrisK: Err, that is, I know Kelly
wendy: but seriously, let's just do this faq the way we did the previous one. Dan wasn't an expert on portfolios before he started writing the FAQ.
Wandering: True, JES, but some of our members have asked for this on several occasions
Wandering: so I think we should step up
sk8gundy: There are plenty of ppl who could write a fAQ abt game journalism, methinks
wendy: and game journalism is a part of game writing
JES: Then I shall be quiet :)
ChrisK: Mykas also writes reviews
wendy: moving on! we've only got ten minutes left!
wendy: (sorry, my dogs are driving me crazy wanting to go for their walk)
Wandering: We need some one to coordinate this
CorvusE: tick tock tick tock
Wandering: then contact mykas and Kelly etc for information
wendy: to coordinate what? the writing of faqs?
Wandering: we need a review FAW volunteer
Wandering: FAQ
Wandering: just this one
wendy: i say we take it to the mailing list and ask
Bigrebo: yea, anyone feel free to e-mail or PM me about that internship thing (not sure what it was, don't want to stall things)
wendy: we're not getting anyone raising their hand here
ChrisK: I'll send them both an email right now
wendy: Dan said he would be interested in doing more FAQs
wendy: i don't think we should give away his thing just cuz he couldn't make it to the meeting
Wandering: Adding review, critique and manual samples to the list
Wandering: Who is covering the script library?
TracySeamster: :: writes Dan's name down on her volunteer spreadsheet ::
Wandering: Thanks Tracy
CatRose: If Dan isn't up for a game journalism faq, honestly I'd be happy to give it a go.
ChrisK: How about if I ask Kelly and Mykas if they can help Dan with the review FAQ instead of owning it?
Wandering: It would be great if you could look at that Cat
tobias_heussner: It was nice seeing you, but I've to go. See you next month and have a nice week.
Wandering: that leaves Dan free to look at the manuals one
Wandering: thanks tobias
JES: bye Tobias
CatRose: take care!
Wandering: Cat for games reviews and Dan for manuals?
Wandering: anyone here covering the script library?
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Wandering: If not lets move swiftly to any other business
wendy: Andy, that's part of the website overhaul
Wandering: Any other business?
JRob: ummm not exactly. but it's also -- what wendy said
wendy: i have some any other business
DrewStew: sorry to address old items (I was a bit tardy to the party), but I was wondering who to speak to regarding GDC 2009 volunteers
Wandering: lol, ummm not exactly.....not exactly what JRob?
JRob: nothing, nothing!
CorvusE: DrewStew: Keep an eye on the mailing list
DrewStew: will do, thanks
CorvusE: DrewStew: I'm going to start seriously badgering for info on Monday
wendy: we've got a new book coming out - essentially launching at GDC
JRob: hooray
sk8gundy: hello, popping back in
wendy: but we need to do a better job of promoting this book - as well as our previous one
Wandering: we have a book coming out?
JRob: *bonk*
wendy: Drew, what kind of volunteering did you have in mind?
TracySeamster: press releases for our books
DrewStew: not rightly sure yet
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JRob: is there any promotion to be done besides trying to have people mention it in as many places as possible to all their various blogs and social networks?
wendy: do you mean for the conference itself? or for sig-related activities?
wendy: that's a start, Rob
wendy: but it also involves talking to educators and showing them how useful this book is - getting them to use it in their classrooms
JRob: oh, true
DrewStew: ah, my apologies. for the conference, i was thinking. it's during our spring break (I'm a college student), so I figured it'd be a good opportunity
wendy: getting influential people to add it to their recommended booklists
wendy: that kind of thing
JRob: hmm, influential people
wendy: volunteering for the GDC conf itself is a long, convoluted process that takes like six months. :-)
wendy: so you've missed your chance on that score for this year
JRob: aw
wendy: but the sig can certainly put you to work if you're going to be there
wendy: so yes, Tracy, we need press releases for the book too
Wandering: any further ideas, or shall we draw this meeting a close?
Wandering: Want to share the gavel, Wendy?
DrewStew: well, whatever i can do to help (if anything), i certainly will
wendy: go for it, Andy
JRob: is there going to be another meeting before the conference?
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Wandering: Please feel free to stay and chat but for now I hereby declare this meeting brought to an end *bang* *bang*
CorvusE: Thanks Andy
Wandering: thanks for coming everyone
TehDrew: (hanging my head in shame)
ChrisK: Wendy, check PM please :P
Wandering: And for all your input as always
JRob: that's ok, we mistook this other guy for you
wendy: wow, how do we have two drews?
TehDrew: hahaha
TracySeamster: lol
TehDrew: Sweet use of doppleganger tech
Wandering: You can never have enough
CatRose: :D
DrewStew: to further the irony, i also go by "andy"
JRob: ha ha
JRob: I should mention that the "J" in my name stands for "Corvus"
Wandering: the words irony and andy go so well together...
JES: my family name is Wendy
TracySeamster: Wendy, when exactly is the book coming out? I wouldn't mind pestering folks to review it or something, but it's hard to ask when I have nothing to show.
JES: okay, not....
Wandering: Drew is secretly Wendy's love child
Wandering: I'll let you decide which Drew
JES: rofl :)
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JRob: also, the Wiki now has the Writer Internships initiative page added, though mostly a stub since nobody's taken charge of the intitiative yet
wendy: Tracy, it's available for preorder on the publisher's website now
wendy: but we can send pdf versions to reviewers if they'll take it
JRob: does A K Peters do any publicity of its own in some way?
Wandering: Yay for pre-order!
TracySeamster: Is that the only place?
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ChrisK: The room for Write CLub is now booked and confirmed! Yay!
JRob: good work!
TehDrew: Yeah, Dansky and I talked briefly about the internship idea, but I'll prod him for more info
Wandering: Great stuff!
wendy: it's been submitted to Amazon etc. for preorder status too, but they're sllloooooww
TracySeamster: ok
CorvusE: ChrisK: Can you email me the details of that, please?
Wandering: Thanks Drew
CorvusE: ChrisK: So I can both map it and add it to the schedule
Wandering: Okay, I'd better run for it, see you all on the mailing list....
TracySeamster: I have to go like do work and stuff =/ Will try to catch up in email later. Aloha!
wendy: bye Andy
ChrisK: Yes, definitely
wendy: bye Tracy
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Wandering: PS As there's been no conflict...was this really a meeting?
wendy: bye everyone leaving
ChrisK: I'll do that right now Corvus
CorvusE: thank you, ChrisK
wendy: oh, there was conflict
wendy: i just took it out on my dogs instead of you people ;-)
JRob: her dogs were full of conflict
JRob: hah, see?
TehDrew: I had a conflict in scheduling
ChrisK: It was a meeting, but was it a good meeting?
JRob: we met, and it was good
Wandering: how do you define 'good'?
JES: it was good for me. and I'm conflicted.
JRob: now I have to get this transcript processed
ChrisK: Did it have a plot? Theme? Structure? Yes, I think it was a good meeting :)
Acknowledgements
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